10-01-2001 Continued Meeting1
CONTINUED MEETING OF THE .ISLE OF WIGHT COUNTY. BOARD
OF SUPERVISORS HELD THE FIRST DAY OF OCTOBER IN THE
YEAR TWO THOUSAND AND ONE
PRESENT:. Henry H. Bradby, Chairman
Robert C. Claud, Sr., Vice-Chairman
Stan D. Clark
Richard K. MacManus
Phillip A. Bradshaw
ALSO PRESENT: Scott Brower, Carrollton Volunteer Fire Department '
Steve Collins, Carrollton Volunteer Fire Department
..George Rawls,. Carrollton Volunteer Fire Department
Vin Pulley, Isle of Wight Volunteer Rescue. Squad
Keith Jones, Rushmere Volunteer Fire Department
Rudolph Jefferson, Rushmere Volunteer Fire
Department
Buddy Jones, Smithfield Volunteer Fire Department
Randolph Barlow, Smithfield Volunteer Fire
Department
Bill Sizemore, Windsor Volunteer Rescue Squad
Also Attending: H. Woodrow Crook, Jr., County Attorney
W. Douglas Casket', County Administrator
.Richard O. Childress, Director of Emergency
Management
Donald T. Robertson, Assistant
County AdministratorlDirector of
Human Resources
Carey H. Mills, Recording Secretary
Chairman .Bradby called the continued meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. in
the Social Services Demonstration Room for the purpose of holding a joint
meeting with the members of the Fire and Rescue Association.
Chairman ..Bradby called for discussion on Item I, Capital
Improvements Plan (CIP) Process.
Richard O. Childress, Director of Emergency .Management, stated
members of the Fire and .Rescue Association have expressed a desire for
more involvement in the CIP process. He stated members feel they were left
out of the process because they could not make changes.
Scott Brower, Carrollton, Volunteer Fire Department,. stated that since
1995,. the Association has worked in a joint effort to produce a Plan. He
stated he was advised that a cap was placed on the. CIP and the organizations
were asked by the CIP subcommittee to prioritize "their needs. which was-
accomplished, however, there were major changes made to the Plan that the
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organizations were not subsequently made aware of. He stated it is this type
of situation that causes mistrust of the Board by the Association: He stated
the organizations: fulfilled. the needs that the. Association thought would
work and they should have been made aware of these- changes. He inquired
why these changes were made.
Supervisor Bradshaw advised that he was not aware of any changes
made to the CIP. He requested an explanation of the CIP process.
Anne F. Seward, Directorof Budget and Finance, stated a new process
has been implemented which involves information being- sent out with
. requests going through 1VIr. Childress. She stated once the information came
back, meetings were held with different individuals. She stated all
organizations were requested to scale back their requests and .that once- the
requests were reviewed, minor revisions were made. She stated that she
recollected only two (2) changes being made to the Plan.
Supervisor Bradshaw stated the entire ,Board was not involved in the
process, but it was their. intention .after meeting. with the Association last
year that it would be advised of any changes.
Mr. Brower stated it took the Association some time before reaching a
consensus and he now feels that meeting was in vain.
Supervisor MacManus stated the CIP Committee made significant
changes in the process. this year and efforts are continuing to make the
process better. He stated he sees this past year as an improvement in the
process and great strides were made as the two (2) groups worked together.
He stated the goal is to establish a realistic CIP.
Randolph Barlow, Smithfield Volunteer Fire Department, stated he
feels like time was wasted because the Plan did not return to them for their
final comments. He stated the relationship between the Board and the
Association has come a long way, but communication is still in .need of
improvement.
Bill Sizemore, Windsor Volunteer Rescue Squad, stated his complaint
centers around the procedure the Association got from the Board.
Supervisor Claud stated there were only three (3) items changed.
Mr. Brower stated that while the Committee may have only made
three (3) changes, the Committee made cuts to make things work and those
cuts were not brought .back to the Association for its comments. He stated it
upsets him when Mr. Childress is asked for his recommendations when the
Association members are the ones that know the needs. He stated the
Association does not want Mr. Childress to make any changes as this was
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the plan the Association came up with and the Association members have
hundreds of years of experience.
Keith Jones, Rushmere Volunteer Fire Department, stated he feels Mr.
Childress has good .experience and is an asset.
Mr. Brower stated it is not his intention to take away from Mr.,
Childress, but he (Mr. Brower) represents the rest of the. Association ''and
when the Association comes up with a plan, that offense- is taken to him
(Mr. Childress) making changes.
Supervisor Claud affirmed that he wants Mr. Childress'
recommendations.. He stated that while he may not agree with them, he still
wants them. He noted it is the Board that will make the final decision.. .
Supervisor MacManus stated he .sees Mr. Childress as a tool and the
Board looks to him -for feedback on many issues. He stated he would
encourage the Fire- and Rescue Association to see the advantage by ;
including Mr. Childress in the day-to-day activities. He stated Mr. Childress
is present at all Board meetings and the Board is going to continue to ask for
his input because of his insight with being involved with the Association
more than the Board members.
Chairman Bradby stated property and life are. above all concerns and
the Board encourages open. communication. He stated communication is
important and he hopes it will continue to improve.
Mr. Barlow requested that any changes be sent back to the various:
organizations so that they will be aware of any changes.: He stated all the
organizations are asking is to be a vital part of this process.
Chairman .Bradby stated the service that is being. provided is more
important than anything and he is nothearing anything tonight that. can't be
addressed.
.Supervisor Claud requested that Mr. Childress take minutes at all
Association meetings and provide copies to the Board for its information.
The Board members agreed. that the organizations will be provided a
second opportunity to comment on the Plan after any changes were made
before the Board takes action.
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Chairman Bradby called for consideration`ofthe County's Purchasing
Process.
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Mr. Childress:.stated past purchases have resulted in questions being
raised regarding the policy.
Ms. Seward explained the process noting that the organizations submit
their requests to Mr. Childress who, in turn, submits the requests to the
Department of Budget: and Finance. She stated if changes are made, they are
returned to Mr. Childress and then back to-the organization, then back to the
.Board and Budget and Finance.
Mr. Brower noted that low bids are not always the best. He inquired if
the organizations have the option. to work around this.
Ms. Seward stated if minimum. requirements are requested, then a
good product will be received.
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Chairman Bradby called for Volunteer Incentives.
Mr. Childress stated he has looked at the retirement policy and a real
estate tax exemption, up to a certain level.
County Attorney Crook stated we can deal with personal property, but
we don't have real estate exemptions.
Mr. Brower stated at the last Association meeting, what makes a true
active volunteer was discussed.
Buddy Jones, Smithfield Volunteer Fire Department, stated -the Town
of Smithfield helps pay for uniforms.
Supervisor Clark suggested individual YMCA memberships
Mr. Sizemore. stated the Windsor Volunteer Rescue Squad offers a
certificate for every 60 hours of volunteer service.
Vin Pulley, Isle of Wight Rescue Squad, stated the Squad was offering
Walmart cards until members began to abuse their use.
Supervisor Claud inquired if separate incentives for fire department
and rescue squads should be established..
Mr. Pulley stated the Smithfield Convalescent Center uses .the Squad
as an easy out, causing its members to get frustrated quickly.
Mr. Brower stated the Association is still working on
recommendations.
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Supervisor MacManus stated 'there is a major impact to the County for
establishing fee for services.
Mr. Sizemore stated the County will riot get sufficient funds back for
fee for services. He stated he does not think billing is the answer.
Supervisor Clark stated he is willing to try anything once because he
County's volunteers are beginning to .burn out.
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Mr. Sizemore suggested taking the money on the personal property tax
and applying it to car insurance.
Chairman Bradby stated the consensus is to work on an incentive.
Mr. Brower stated the Board needs to take a more active role with the
County's fire departments. He stated the Carrollton Volunteer Fire
Department has asked for an EMS budget from the County for the- past
several years. He stated there is no incentive for fire departments to come
on line because they don't receive support from the Board. He stated the
Department runs additional calls, but receives the same budget as everybody
.else.
Supervisor Claud stated it all comes down to what level of service the
County can provide .and the Board has to look at what level of service it can
afford to fund. He stated before any organization moves .into doing what the
Carrollton Volunteer Fire Department does, it should be discussed. with the
Board to determine if the Board can support it financially.
Mr. Brower stated people were dying because .ambulances were -not'
getting there and the Department put the need before the money. He stated
the Department holds successful fundraising. campaigns and it had the
resources to do this previously, however, the need has grown. He stated
when the Department purchases an ambulance, it can't operate it on a fire
department's budget.
Supervisor Bradshaw suggested having. a separate tax by district.
Mr. Sizemore inquired when the dispatching :could be .,expected. to
improve in the County.
Mr. Pulley stated there are areas in his district that have big gapping
holes.
Mr. Childress stated the County is currently working with Commercial
Radio and he is putting together another package to see if that will take. care
of the problem.
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Supervisor Claud .requested .that Mr. Childress contact the Town of
Smithfield to inquire regarding the status of the new equipment expected to
improve dispatching efforts. and bring back a report to the Board.
Supervisor MacManus stated he would bring Mr. Sizemore's
complaint up at the Smithfield Town Council meeting.
Mr. Pulley addressed the Board on weekend coverage which was
`deleted when the Captain resigned. He stated that at that same meeting, the
Squad voted to relax the weekend hours. He stated that while there were
two (2) separate issues, they happened to be discussed on the same night.
He invited .any. interested Board member to attend meetings.
Mr. Pulley inquired if the County could develop a hazardous condition
policy when it becomes too dangerous for fire and rescue to respond. He
stated other localities have adopted such a policy.
Mr. Childress stated most departments approved gale force winds
sustained as a benchmark and each department needs its own internal
department policy. He stated the organizations can agree Association-wide,
but each organization needs its own department policy.
Supervisor Bradshaw suggested.. the Board hold quarterly dinner
meetings with the Association:
County Attorney Crook requested a closed session under Sections 2.1-
344 A3 and A7 of the Freedom of Information Act concerning a request
from the Carrollton Volunteer Fire Department to discuss with the Board
and. County Attorney negotiations for acquisition of property and contract
negotiations.
Supervisor Bradshaw moved the Board enter closed session for the
reasons stated. The motion was adopted with Supervisors MacManus,
Bradby, Bradshaw, Clark and Claud voting in favor of the motion (5-0) and
no Supervisors voting against the motion. -
.Upon :..returning to open session, Supervisor Claud moved the Board
adopt the following resolution:
CERTIFICATION OF CLOSED MEETING
WHEREAS, the Board of Supervisors has convened a closed meeting on
this date pursuant to an affirmative recorded vote and in accordance with the
provisions of the Virginia Freedom. of Information Act; and,
WHEREAS, 2.1-344.1 D of the Code of Virginia requires a certification
by this Board of Supervisors that such closed meeting was conducted in
conformity with Virginia law;
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NOW,. THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED that the Board of Supervisors
hereby certifies that, to the best of each member's knowledge, (i) only public
business matters lawfully exempted from open .meeting requirements by
Virginia. law were discussed in the closed .meeting to which this certification
resolution applies, and (ii) only such public business matters as were identified
in the motion convening the .closed meeting were heard, discussed or
considered by the Board of Supervisors..
VOTE .
AYES: MacManus, Bradby, Bradshaw, Clark and Claud
NAYS: 0
ABSENT DURING VOTE:. 0
ABSENT DURING MEETING: 0
The motion. was adopted with Supervisors MacManus, Bradby,...
Bradshaw, Clark and Claud voting in favor. of the motion (5-0) and no
Supervisors voting against the motion.
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At 10:40 p.m., Supervisor Claud moved the Board continue its meeting
until October 4, 2001 at 1:00 p.m. The motion was adopted unanimously (5-0).
Henry H; B adby, Chairman.
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